Are you sure that postman was holding a box or just a sign? I'll be looking forward to my Priority Mail.

Glenn, Glenn, Glenn, I was able to brighten some scans from magazines and such to the point that no background was printed then increase the contrast so the type showed up fine. *Your shorts?! Oh no! I thought YOU had them. LOL

Now, I know I haven't been around much lately. But the last time I remember it had something to do with SOCKS. Now, come to find out, SHORTS are also involved. This mystery is deepening. However, I did see a clue. Upon returning from my Saturday walk by the bay, the mailman stood with a box labeled "SHORTS, OPEN AT YOUR OWN RISK." Glenn, I have no idea what you are up to but I think it's not computing. I quickly gave the postman Daisy's EMail address and told him that she is in charge of the missing items of clothing. Cheers. Jill

Mayre, you could do it as two separate projects. Design the front, in one, then the back in another. Print design one (front), flip the page over, and print design two (back). Come on Helga, no holding back, what did you do, to make everyone ROTFLOL?

To Maurice and Stuart, Thanks so much for your help in my FINALLY getting a successful download, this one "took" after the last full installation was giving me problems and I decided to uninstall it. Gave it one more try, today, and it'w working. Looks like a lot of fun and will be very useful. Eleanor.

Daisy Daisy Daisy if the cake and chart don't have transparent backgrounds it can't be done. The chart at least has to be transparent to allow the cake to show. Did you find my shorts?

Congrads, to Jocelyn and Michael, the babies are beautiful... As my son would say two more and you have a full hockey line.... Jocelyn Happy Mothers Day to you.... Melissa, I just read parts of what you are trying to do can you scan the cake save it as a bitmap then open it in PMW and if you go to attributes you can change it to about a 15 or 20% gray and that will allow you to put your chart over top of the cake? hope that helps or works... Happy Mothers Day to all of you wonderful Moms out there especially the ones who have been searching for all of the lost socks!!!! Glad summer is coming soon we can all wear sandles... Doreen

Hi Michael and Jocelyn! CONGRATULATIONS!!! I´m glad that everything went well and that the 3 little ones are healthy & all. You must sure be proud all of you! Went to your site and saw the pics. Am amazed that you have time with all these postings and uppdatings in the middle of yr wife´s delivery. How many assistants do you have? Anyway, best of luck!!! Peter

To create a shortcut to Michael's site in MSIE4.0 Favorites folder. First highlight and copy the address Glenn gave. Click on Favorites (on the menu bar), Organize Favorites, Right click on the white window, Select New, Shortcut. Where it says "Enter command line" paste in the address. Click Next. Give it a name. Click Finish.

On 2nd thought, print the chart first...? 3rd thought - Since it is a scanned image you might be able to use the photo enhancer to lighten the image so the background is white and then increase the contrast so the text shows up. I used to do this in Ulead iphoto when I had it installed.

Print the Cake. Put the paper back in the printer the same way and print the chart. You may want to lighten the cake graphic so the chart shows over top of it.

Hello All! Thanks for e-mailing me. PC and phone are tied up most of the time, but I sure was happy about those who got through. New problem ~ have made a nifty business card for myself, but want to put some features on the back. Possibly use a point system. Or would settle for a haiku with a small graphic. Anyone believe that's possible. I'm using Avery cards - two sided. Best M.

For those of you who are having trouble getting to things on Michaels site you need to access it at http://members.xoom.com/mbgoldberg/

Do you think the censor makes type errors when it translates our messages. It couldn't possibly be ME....(G)....S

Hi Milissa, I think what is happening is the same thing that happen to me. When I scan a picture in if it isn't the whole pape then the rest become a white background and it isn't transparent. What I have to do it take it to a photo program and crop out everything except what I want to show up. Some of these programs also have a transparent choice. I don't know if this is what is happening to you but it sounds simular to what happen to me....Thanks Sharon....

CONGRATULATIONS, MICHAEL & JOCELYN...Just got to the computer today and found Daisy's direct URL to the pictures. I am so moved, they are so beautiful and all such a good size. We have three sons, but they were born one at a time....can't imagine the joy at seeing three at once! Will be waiting for more of those pictures, Michael......Eleanor

I went all the way back to the beginning of this page and couldn't find the person who wanted to know about adding custom colors to the tool bar in the color section. When you go to custom color it is a new time each time but if you select all the colors you might want to use a one time they will all be added at the bottom when you go back again it will reset to the first one again but the others will still be there.... I hope this is clear but if you try it you'll understand better... Thanks Sharon

Daisy, I don't think that what I want to do will work. I thought Glenn's idea would work but the chart blocks out the cake underneath. I can see a slight grey color that tells me that scanning my chart is not going to work unless I can make everything else transparent. Does this make sense? I need this done tonight and I could skip it all together and just type up something simple but I want to do it if it is possible...Melissa

Tracey Open a new project (card, poster, etc.) Click on the Picture Icon. In the Art Gallery put ALL in each of the windows. Then type the words GRADIENT BLEND in the search window and click on FIND NOW. You will be presented with several gradients. (Additional search words are Center Out, Outside In, and Outside in Rainbow) These are not brought up under gradient blend and will have to be entered in search separately. Center out is most useful. Remember that color is not important. You need to click on the one that has the effect you want to create. Then click on SELECT. The gradient will then appear in your project. Size it to fit the page.(or beyond)............. To change the color click on the paint can. Select a color from the palette. Then click on MORE. You will get a rainbow palette with the color you selected as the starting point. You can move the cross hairs to any color you like. Move the slider on the right side to lighten the color. This is to make it more usable as a background. Experiment to get just the color you want. When satisfied click on OK. The color possibilities are virtually limitless. .......................

If anyone has sent me email in the last few days - my ISP is really goofing up. Just got your message Glenn and it looks like it was sent May 7!! I sent myself a message from hotmail at work yesterday morning at 8am and I just now received it! So apologies to anyone I haven't answered. Please resend. Marty

I'm so exasperated with my Epson 600 #$%$#$%$#$%. My patience is running thin %$@$%#!! As with Helga, I've once again gone through the motions to reink the color cartridge. I am only able to get ONE reinking from a cartridge. When it is refilled the second time, using the exact same steps, I either get nothing or banding. This is with topping off the cartridge at the one quarter to one half mark. It happens with both the color and the black. Several (eight to ten cleanings does not solve the problem) and only uses up more ink.

I am trying to make up an invitation for my husband and he wants the panel type. That is four on a page type. I am new to this type of thing. If anyone could tell me how to do it I would appreciate it. All the invitations I see are just one on a page. I need to know as soon as possible as he needs to get them in the mail.

Hi Friends, and particularly Helga if I remember correctly. I am still trying to get hold of the archives which include the dates of April 15th through 18th. I inadvertently sent them off to lost file Heaven and have not been able to retrieve them. What I desperatly need right now are the instructions which someone (Helga, I think), posted for sending a PM online card. I am desperate to get one in the e-mail to a person who will probably not see much of summer, much less another Mother's Day. But those instructions are the ones lost. If anyone can help me out with those ASAP, I would be SO appreciative. Thanks good folks. Jean

Dear Jocelyn and Michael: I am adding my congratulations to those other PM chat room who have been following your every move. I am delighted that everything is OK. Problem 1: I am trying to make a banner for my daughter's 5th-grade classroom wall. She wants a woodgrain back and a late 1800s font (I used Rodeo) to make the sign for the store window. The problem is that the woodgrain background I have a left border background, with only the left the woodgrain. So I opened a banner and repeated the woodgrain several times horizontally, each time covering the yellow in the rest of that image. Then I placed the sign wording on top of that. When I went to print a trial tile, the sign text comes out fine, but there is no background. The image is quite a bit higher than could be accommodated within the upper and lower banner margins. I didn't think that would be a problem. I have been sitting here for almost 4 hours now, trying different things. If I alter the % down from 100%, it will print a woodgrain background, but only about 2 inches high. I do want the text to occupy a good 7-1/2 to 8" of the vertical banner margins, but I am running out of time on a VERY BUSY DAY already. In order to keep the proportion, I want it to be 1 tile high in order to fit properly in her "window" she is constructing. But to do that, it wants to make it 22 tiles across. I would be delighted to just stop the printer when I get to the place where I have all of the text printer. But she can't handle anyting more than about 3-1/2 to 4 tiles wide (which isn't a problem: Her text fits fine within those dimensions. I'll have to ask you about the second problem later. I need to get this one straigtened out right away! Thanks good folks for trying to help. Most cordially, Jean

Dear Michael and family,been gone so just heard about the safe arrival of your precious babies,Congratulations to the whole Goldberg family, we are all anxious to know their names. Hope Jocelyn is resting well now.(and you too)Best, Myra

That #@%! mess is click "M O R E" I have no idea why it got censored.

Click on the background or graphic to select it. Click on the color button (left side of work area, looks like a bucket pouring out paint) C#$%!ORE. At the far right of the window that opens is a little black triangle beside a color bar. Move it up the bar to lighten. Click OK.

Sorry about the double....S

I found a site for a much less expensive machine and it's what I think I'm going to order. It's the badgeaminite at http://www.badgeaminit.com ....I think this would be great to use with PM . I'll let you know when I get it how it works....Thanks Sharon....P.S. Larry I finally just gave up on trying to e-mail those papers to my husband... Sent them with mailboxes etc....S

I found a site for a much less expensive machine and it's what I think I'm going to order. It's the badgeaminite at http://www.badgeaminit.com ....I think this would be great to use with PM . I'll let you know when I get it how it works....Thanks Sharon....P.S. Larry I finally just gave up on trying to e-mail those papers to my husband... Sent them with mailboxes etc....S

Hi Michael, my most heartfelt congratulations!--- And WOW, to celebrate, the chat room upkeepers collaborated and put the chat room width to "normal again." Thanks Mindscape Support! the bottom scroll bar is gone. Maurice.

Jocelyn and Michael, congratulations on your newest little ones. Keep the pictures coming.....Helga =^..^=

Two days ago, I refilled my Epson 800 color cartridge for the third time. With the use of a needle and syringe, I filled each compartment very slowly and let the cartridge sit for two hours before reinstalling it back into the printer. I ran it through the cleaning cycle three times, and the print output was fine. That same evening (10 hours after refilling), the output showed missing lines. A nozzle check revealed horizontal gaps in magenta and yellow. After three more print head cleanings, printing was all right again. Last night, the same thing happened: missing lines in output which were fixed by cleaning the print heads. Also, nozzle check showed horizontal gaps again in magenta and yellow. Any ideas on why the magenta and yellow colors seem to stop flowing? Any suggestion on how resolve this problem? I need to shop for a Mother's Day gift and will check back later. Thanks. BTW, the printer is fixed again, but I can't tell what was wrong. You good people would be ROTFLOL....L8R.....Helga=^..^=

I would appreciate if any one can explain to me how you can get a background color to go from dark to light. Secondly, does the photo enhancer work on backgrounds and borders? Help, please....I want to make a card

Wow, Michael,congratulations on the safe arrival of the babies. They are very big for triplets. I just found a new site for a button machine. There are several styles to choose from all the way up to commercial. It's http://www.usabuttons.com/ ...Thanks...Sharon

Welcome Mayre, your modem is working fine and this a chat room for friendly folks who use PrintMaster, graphics, desktop publishing and related hardware/software. Most of just post here and you have to return in a reasonable period of time for responses and answered questions and welcome suggestions….Larry

Need help! Someone kind, please e-mail me so I know this do-dad is working. Have been writing on a PC for umpteen years, but haven't a clue about modems, etc. . .

Michael and Jocelyn, so glad the babies are here and healthy. They look a good size too! I know your whole family is tired and excited, wish we are all closer by to help you out. But Grandma is there and that will be a tremendous help! Hope you and she are feeling much better. Oh, BTW, did you get to give Jocelyn that peck on the cheek before you ran out to give us the good news??? Thank you so much for letting us know so quickly. All of our best to your entire family.

Probably choosing "brochure" from the new project list would be the best bet. You can select 2, 3, or 4 panels and Tall or Wide orientation.

http://members.xoom.com/mbgoldberg/Trip3.html To go direct to baby pictures.

Hello... Does anyone know the best way to create a concert program in PrintMaster?

Hi Everyone! I have been gone for a while but I see I made it back in time for the triplets!!!! YIPPEE! Congratulations Michael and Jocelyn!!! Michael, a tip I learned from waaaay back. When you bring the babies home, they are showered with gifts, etc. Bring the other three children a gift also...it makes them feel good and not left out! I, too, need some help. Like Connie, I can't get an arrow or anything, I can only get the home page with no links. Help!!! I am dying to see the babies! I am sure they are beautiful like your other children. Michael, what are their names? It is good that their weights are so close to being the same....no 2 pounder. Can someone help me get to the pictures? ~Anxiously waiting~ Vicky~

Michael, Congratulations on the Babies.But I need help. I can't see the babies on your site. When I go to the main page I do not get a next button or arrow. So I can't go to the next page.But I'm sure they're beautiful just like the others.Now the fun begins!

Many best wishes to the Goldbergs and their new additions! It's so great of them to share their joy with the world! May their lives be as enriched as they have enriched ours!

Congrats to you and Jocelyn. Lets not forget Susannah, Deborah and Dainiel. Best of luck to you all. Can't wait to see more pics.

Sorry so slow getting back to you. Were you able to get the BD cake to print yet?

Hip hip hooray! Hip hip hooray! Hip hip hooray! Three cheers for the three new Goldbergs!!! Jill

Congratulations, the babies are adorable! You have been truly blessed. I'm glad everything went well and that all are healthy. Donna

Couldn't resist - Think of all the SOCKS they'll have to keep track of! ~L~

Just saw the photos, conrats to you and your family. What a prescious gift you have been given. Best of luck!

CONGRADULATIONS! Michael & Jocelyn, What beautiful and healthy babies you make. We should have known looking at the adorable other siblings. Give all extra love. You are in our prayers. What a wonderful expierence. debb

Many congratulations to Michael and Jocelyn!!! The babies are beautiful! Reminds me of a song (although it's about twins and called "20 Tiny Fingers"); It goes, "We've got cribs and bottles and bibs all around our 3 room flat. No time to see what's on TV, no place to hang my hat. But mom and I we both agree when all is said and done. We've got twice the blessings and we have twice the fun." ****Here's to you and THREE times the blessings & fun!!!

Congradulations Michael and Jocelyn. Thanks for posting the pictures so quickly, the boys are beautiful. May you, Jocelyn and family have many days filled with sunshine and happiness. Best wishes Sandi

Since I know you are going to have umpteen emails, I will say here that tears are in my eyes and a song in my heart for you and Jocelyn. I can't wait to tell the mama of our twin boys, Andrew and Christian, that there are three beautiful babies sharing a birthday with them!! May all your days be as joy-filled and exciting as they are today!! Love and hugs, Bev

Ya'll have got to go and check out the babies! Can you believe that he has had time to even think to do that?! They are so beautiful!! I admit I Awww-ed out loud. My husband said I best not get any ideas and that having the babies on there is dangerous because seeing them makes me want more!

Hi, folks - surprised you! Jocelyn & three healthy baby boys are all doing fine - 4 lbs 11 oz, 4 lbs 5 oz, 4 lbs 6 oz. You'll have to got to the website for photos, but Jocelyn delivered suddenly at 6:40 PM this evening. As it turns out, my website is the fastest way that I can get photos to all our friends & relatives. So after Jocelyn started to conk out after all the hoopla was over, I came back here & uploaded the photos I took with my camcorder. Only took 15 minutes or so. I was in the middle of updating my website with new printmaster stuff when Jocelyn called and away I went. Got there in time, but they weren't going to wait for me! The adventure begins!! Thanks for all the well-wishes! Michael & Jocelyn.

Wow! Thanks to all for caring and sharing notes about your furry pals. They have really brightened my otherwise dismal day. I feel like I have friends here, it's a good feeling! Non pet lovers can't understand how much they get to be part of the family - unfortunately, I have to include my SO in that group, but to his credit, he cried too when I had to bring her. Larry> now I know how YOU felt ... BTW did you get my E-mail THIS time???

Daisy, I had already tried what you suggested, I ended up donig what Glenn suggested. Maybe you can help with this...I have a picture of a B-day cake and my chart on top of that..it is printing right now and the cake isn't there...this is my first attempt as this kind of project.

Michael, congratulations, and thanks for notifiying the room on the way out the door. I hope that three or four minutes doesn't come back to haunt you 15 or 20 years down the road. Good luck, and best wishes to you, Jocelyn and the triplets.

Michael is pretty ingenious he may have a lap top and a cell phone:-) BTW Michael all the best. I shure hope all goes well. And good luck in the future. You are going to need it. I hope you make tons of money or maybe, win the lottery.

OK...who's the official one that's going to let us all know about the triplets, that is besides Michael? I can just see him now, last one is out, he leans over and gives Jocelyn a little peck on the cheek, and off to the computer he goes to jump on the chat and update his page. Linda, so sorry to hear about your little friend. I had to do that last July with Gin-Gin that I'd had since she was 3, she was 15 when I had to let her go. 2 days later, we saved another little one that had her D-day coming up in 3 days from then at the shelter. We hadn't planned to add to the family that quickly, but she needed a family and we needed a little furry one. It helped me get through the sorrow a little easier, having a little one to hold on to and catch my tears. Best wishes to you.

Oh, you're fast tonight. (Maybe too fast on the e-mail trigger. ~L~) Must be that those warm, cozy socks I sent are making you feel frisky.

Ok, did you try selecting what you imported, click on Arrange, then Position, Full Size? I don't know what else to do. I don't have Excel so that I can experiment with it myself. sorry

Hello Melissa if you have the project the way you want it in Excell, print it and scan it into PM Then you can right click on the graphic select Position then select full page. You might try this last part before you scan. It will probably work.

Hello folks. Michael is off to the hospital and we all know what that means. Diapers, bottles, feedings, dressings, holdings.....for THREE!!! Three cheers for you and the wife Michael. Come back and see us some time (tongue in cheek). Cheers. Jill

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <dbrinsfield@mci.com> Try again Debbie the address is wrong.

Melissa the error in the address is the period after the d.

I used tall. I even tried using letterhead thinking the poster size might be to large of a field to fill in. Melissa

Linda, sorry to hear about you friend, I know how hard that is to do as I took my pup last month. She was 15yrs old and it's like saying goodby to a member of the family. The best thing to remember is as much pleasure as she or he gave you, you gave them the same Pat

I just tried to e-mail you but it keeps coming back. Is this right? d.brinsfield@mci2000.com ? Melissa

This may be a stupid question, but do you have the poster orientation set to tall or wide? *Yes, I was excited to see that the babies are on the way. Knew it was too late to send congrats. here. Can't you just hear him saying to his wife, "Wait honey, I have to notify the PM chat users." ~LOL~ Wishing them all the best too.

I don't know about anyone else but I am realy excited for Michael and his wife. Thre babies at once!! Whew!!! I guess we should get started making our cards of Congrats. Anybody know of any cliparts sites that have babies??

I have a document in Microsoft Excel that I want to bring into PM. I chose poster and pasted it but I am unable to stretch it out to fill the project area. Will what I am trying to do work??? Is there an easier way to make 12 boxes on PM?? I asked for some help about two days ago and I need to get this done by tomorrow night. Thanks, Melissa

Has anyone experienced this problem? I have upgraded to Print Master Plantinum. Downloading was successful. Art CD 1, Art CD 2 and Photos CD5 can be downloaded. I cannot enter into Art CD3 and Photos CD 4. I wrote to technical support. They e-mailed me the instructions from the booklet. I checked all their suggestions. Still cannot download Art CD 3 and Photos CD 4. Any suggestions will be helpful Larry

Will someone please e-mail. I just got a modem so going on line is new and confusing, but want to learn.

Well, I am just not supposed to have this program, Maurice. Downloaded the full install version from that site and it still wouldn't convert the setup, except now it just gives an Error message, so I uninstalled it. Eleanor

Triplets coming - on the way to the hospital. Tell you all about it!

Thanks for the advice

Never mind, I figured it out. I cannot right click in a frame to Add to Favorites or it just goes to that frame alone. I had to go into 'Organize Favorites' , right click then select New, Shortcut, and enter in (paste) the address, give it a name. TA-DA!

Papasan just fill out the registration form and skip the number and send it. It will register and enable your free fonts and graphics. If not go to the top of the chat page and click on printmaster support and there is a registration page there. They E-Mail you a reg. Number.

Ok, when I copy and pasted the address into the address bar it worked and I saw the buttons again, but when I use my favorites/bookmark I see no buttons. Why? *Downloading socks to wear - I COULD tell you, but that would be enabling your dependency on me to retrieve your socks again so you'll have to figure it out on your own.

Where do I find my resistration number? I just bought this program Print Masater Gold. I wanted to register it but don't where to find the number it asks for.

Hi Eleanor, those are utilities to see movies on your computer. If your computer complained about not finding VB40032.DLL, it means you don't have those 2 utilities installed. Get the FULL INSTALL and you'll be okay. --- I am off to dance the evening and night away. See you all tomorrow. Maurice.

Sorry, that was Tgrad and not Tgard (told you the computer gets even)

Hello Daisy, I got the socks in my E-Mail but, I don't know how to download them so that I can wear them. You didn't include any instructions. It was nice of you to wash and dry them and send them to me all warmed up.

OK, Maurice...Read your post about the installation that will give me the file this expensive, "with everything we could possibly want" machine does not have. Now, I have a new problem. What is Visual Basic and what are MPEG movies? One would think that after all the files I had searched today, that I would have come across them but if there is anything I have learned from dealing with a computer it is to take NOTHING for granted. The minute you do, it reaches out and takes away what you have been working on! I'll bet you wish Stuart never posted the Tgard site...eleanor.

I just read my last post and I spelled decrepit deceipit. Hey, I don't have Daisy's excuse of five hours sleep. It must have been Shug's "evil eye". I am kinda disappointed, Maurice, that they can't be your socks, since you don't wear any, cause I had visions of dancing in them. Maurice, what did you think of the ballroom competition on Wednesday nite. I watched enthralled. Did you have a favorite? Michael, I hope the waiting is about over. My twins, at work, were a year old today and I surely miss my camcorder that was stolen a year ago. They are so entertaining that if I had them living here, I wouldn't ever have to watch tv again! Just look what you have to look forward to. My best wishes to you and Jocelyn. Also thanks for the tips on your website. I have already used them lots. Bev and Shug

http://members.xoom.com/mbgoldberg/

The Printmaster Button on Michael's site is located on the left hand side of the page click on it and it will take you to another page where you can access the download pages.

Hey, I see what you mean. There used to be a button to click on to go to Print Master tips and ideas. Must be under construction or something.

Linda> so sorry about your furry friend. I know how awful it feels to lose one. I had to have mine put to sleep & it was the hardest decision to make. But it's just as hard to see them suffer, knowing they won't get better. I vowed I'd never get another--but in a month I had a puppy, Manchester Terrier named Sammy. And boy is he spoiled! He doesn't know he's a dog.<G> Maurice> well now we know the real reason you moved to Arizona. Not to get away from mowing grass & shoveling snow--but so you don't have to wear socks! Thank goodness-Daisy has her hands full keeping track of Glenn & Larry. What would she do with one more?!? Sharon> glad to hear there was no permanent damage to your husbands heart & hope the meds are only temporary too. Donna

pm chat #18 has been mailed. *** it seems that maybe things are faster? *** to be added to the list, or removed from the print master chat archive, send a note to jim@kjs-a.com. *** later!

Bev - Don't blame me for your piccadillos. ~LOL~ I know for a fact that Glenn received his socks. * Maurice - So now you only lose your socks in pairs, right? *Lee - (Men can't keep track of socks) Try this - put them in the drawer, but under the briefs. They'll think they are all gone until they run out of underwear. ha ha * Serious Question - PM does not recognize ZIP drive. Tells me check if the door is close or disk is inserted. I have to copy my extra graphics to the hard drive before I can use them. Why or why not?

I hear you all talk about the download area on Michaels site, what am I missing when I visit is. members.xoom.com/mbgoldberg/HomeMain.html Where is it. Thank you

Lee I forgot you wanted to know about memory, obviously the computer has more than I do. I have 48 MB ram and a 2.1 GB HD Bill

Lee, I don't know if I will ever use the Windows version of PM gold, but it is nice to know that virtual PC will run it all right. I use a MAC Clone, a Motorola Starmax 5000 with a 603EV chip at 225mhz. works pretty well, and I have OS8.1 installed Bill

Maurice, shame on you. You told me you didn't wear socks. I think you are just trying to say what we each want to hear. Guess I have no choice about forgiving you, if I expect to get more help that is. It must have been very difficult to get your shoes on with your socks stuck together. CU Later, Jackie

Hi Lee, my wife is so neat so even sewed press buttons on my socks, so they will stay together in the dryer. The first time I forgot to take them apart before putting them on, and I had a heck of a time to figure that one out. Maurice.

Should have been Onsale Auctions in case anyone is interested. Can get some neat things at decent prices. Sometimes worth it to "try it out"!