Yeah ROLF, stop Chitting... to tell the truth, I think I was far more amused by ROLF than I usually am by ROFL!!! :-)

Good Evening Frank, go to the cheapest store in your area that sell crafts and fabrics and get a Fiskars cutting mat and a cutting ruler. they are relatively inexpensive and save the table top. I have one the size of my table for fabric and store it under my mattress when not in use. Got it at a garage sale.......S

I just got the MSN cd with IE4 on it today in the mail. Think I will send it to my friend. Maybe it will motivate him. I just spelled Daisy wrong twice when I started this message. Must be time for bed. |-0 <yawn? nite.

Did I miss a full moon tonight? All this chitting and chatting has got to stop!<ROLF!!!> Thanx, Peter for the come back about hard drives. Tried all those things w/PackardBell Tech Support, noting worked, so re-installed the original 546 meg, and gave it to my son for a backup. He promtly gave it to my X. Let her struggle with it! Now to the business at hand. Bought the Fiskars rotary cutter @ Michael's tonight, and a perforation cutter @ OfficeMax. I got elected to make the tickets for a fundraiser for the gun club. What's the best thing ladies, for padding under your project? Imagine that perf. cutter could reeeeeally raise hobbs with the dining room table. Been making tickets since around 9, it's midnight now. Everyone's gone to bed, I'm sure, so will look for an answer anon. That is if all the chittin' and chattin' doesn't scroll it off in two or three hours! Looks like I missed a good male cow (chew on that one zensor) session tonight. Sigh. To bed. Later, Frank. P. S. Larry. Tom Brokaw said on the news Tuesday night that S CA was having a problem with grasshoppers. That's the "bugs" I was referring to. dumbassmartian, indeed!

Hello, Look like we are back to what I said originally. I will admit that I had the thing for a long time and didn't know you could send in HTML but never ran across the change font or color part. I sure am glad it gone, never to return. To bad the folks that don't have IE4.0 don't know what they are missing.

Perfect! That's my birthday and you can see what a fine, well-rounded, fiesty, bullheaded person I turned out to be. :-) Your wife just needs a internet connection at the hospital. ha ha Well, why not? They have them just about everywhere else. Wishing you both the best. *Daisy

We all love our PrintMaster program(s). We do tend to get off subject some and "chit chat" here. Feel welcome to jump in anytime with a solution, hint, your 2 cents worth, or a question.

Hi, & thanks for all the interest in the web site. Looks like I gotta fix the size of the picture, add frames, etc. I'll try to fix it tonight if I can figure out this frames stuff. Jocelyn's fine but stir crazy! Her goal is to get to May 1 now. Got to go! Michael

Even though it has html formating for the text I don't think it can receive picures in the message. When I send to my friend he has been able to see my formatting and the colored backgrounds, but he can't see the stationery. This is what "the book" has to say about attachments. BOOK= "If you receive a message that has an attachment you'll see a paper clip icon next to the envelope icon. To view the attachment, just double-click the message. You'll see a compose window, just like the one you use when you write a new message,... except that there's a special panel at the bottom that contains the attachment. (Paragraph)Mail displays the attachment as an icon. To view the attachment, just double-click it. Windows will attempt to find an application to view the file. (paragraph) If no application exists that's capable of displaying the file, you'll see a dialog box asking you to associate this type of file with an application."

Larry, thanks for the help with PMG 4.00.21 ( now stop cracking your whip at me). So you were at Shemya Island; you must have been based at Eareckson Air Force Base. How long where you there? I understand the weather can get rather nasty there; especially during the winter time.Glad you made it back fully defrosted.......Helga>^..^<

Hello all; Anyone else all excited about Printmaster? I have only now upgraded to 3.0, and 4.0 is soon on it's way. I've been with this program since 1.0 and absolutely love the results.

Hello Venus we need the book some more I just sent Sharon an E Mail in HTML with a picture in the text block and it was split off as an attachment and just a bunch of numbers and letters. Is there a receive tab?

All taken in fun and no other way. Eagle River is very Beautiful.......Good Night All.......S

Maurice, A thousand apologies. I didn't realize my mistake because after I posted I went to bed. I actually did know that it was Michael. I probably wouldn't have ever know of my mistake if it wasn't for Glenn e-mailing me. By the time I got on tonight, anything about it had already scrolled off, and there is only a small mention of it that I almost missed. If this vhat room wsn't so darn interesting I would get to bed at a decent hour and would have half a brain. Glenn are you around? I am sorry but I feel the need to walk away from this scanner. I am really thinking about finding a way to get my money back or get something else. I feel like I did in algebra class, I cried because everyone else understood it and it was just so over my head. I failed and had to go to summer school. I did eight chapters in four weeks and got an A+. But I have to say I don't think there is much hope of me understanding it. I am going to bed now, 11:30 pm. The lack of sleep is getting to me....Melissa

I might have been there to see him. Glad things are looking up. I know all about how a plant closing can mess up your life. As they say nowadays, Been there, Done that. Happy it's over!

Glenn - Great cover-up Mars brain! <BG> **Donna -The 'tusco' in your address caught my eye. My husband goes to a shooting range called tusco (or in tusco?)for Cowboy Action Shooting events. Is that near you?

Well guys hate to cut a good thing short but have a lot of work to catch up on and this just "aint gettin it done" I'll be gone all day tomorrow. My hubby comes home from work!!!!!!!! Thanks for all the help.........S

Hello Sharon another one is on the way this time in HTML with a picture in the text box. It should be open when you get it.

No, I've never been to Yosemite Park or any part of California. Hey, I've got an idea--I'll bring my monitor out there so you can see it. (And some chittlins too) That way I'll get to see California. Well, actually I will be making my first trip that way in September, to San Diego. Can't wait! When the time comes, I'll let you guys know what temperature, humidity, etc. I want. OK? Donna PS No chit here, only the chat that is sanctioned by PM Live!

I'm about 45mi. south of Akron, in the little city of NEW Philadelphia. We are in a valley here and don't get much snow like some parts north of here get. Never even had the shovel out this year! Donna

See Venus that is the reason I did it. I inadvertantly helped someone. It don't get any better than this. If you believe that I will tell you another.... Lary where are you? You ask for help then abandon me.

Daisy, I went into mail and new message and found the formate just like you said. And lo and behold it was set at plain text. My son-in-law set it up and I never knew there was a choice until tonight. When I changed it to HTML a font selection box poped up. Now does this mean I can send pictures I create with my PMP in my e-mail? All this chit-chatting is very informative for us beginners....Thanks....S

We haven't showed for about 4 years. Just go to support the show. I won winners dog at Marion show in 88. Lost my favorite about 2 years later. He never did make it to Champion but was one from begining in our hearts. We are looking for a pup to show but taking our time in what we want. Husband finally got another good job. His job of 29 years was lost to a closing of plant. Doing well now though. debb

Oh, it has to right, afterall it's from Microsoft. <G> THEY wouldn't make a mistake now would they? (But in this case I believe them as I have also seen it work.)

Dang, I hate it when I let something like that happen. Don't you just love it?

If yur manual be right I are wrong.

"...choose Format HTML in the compose window. You'll see a toolbar containing font, font size, emphases such a bold or italic, font color, alignment, and bulleted list options. You simply choose these options... Mail takes care of the HTML."

"With mail, you can send and receive messages formatted with HTML, the same markup language that underlies the appearance of Web documents. You don't even need to know any HTML to do this, as you'll see; formatting your messages is as simple as using a few simple formatting commands that work just like the ones in a simple word processing program."

Thanks to all of you, Daisy, Jon, Maurice,Paul, Glenn, for helping with my problem. Guess Hillary was right... "it takes a village to help an idiot", or something like that. Thanks loads. Myra

Do you show at the Marion or Crawford County Kennel Club shows? They have them twice a year at the fairgrounds colesium. I usually go and watch the group judging. Just like seeing and being around the dogs. My furrys are 2 lovely mutts and 3 cats.

What does your official IE3 Manual say about changing fonts and colors? If I sat here all this time with that capability and didn't know. (NO WAY) I will concede the possibility that some upgrade permits it, but I had the latest version when I changed to 4.0

Sharon send me an E-Mail so I can send you an attachment that I hope you can open. If not you really have a problem. To open d/c the attachment. It will be sent in plain text and an attached graphic in gif format and it should open in your browser.

Hi, all. Love the chit and chat and info. Daisy, I get about the same as you on Michaels site. Also have 17" moniter. Can't wait to see triplets though, I hope they stay in their safe haven a while longer. We ate supper at Ralphies in Marion on Sun. We had been to Buckeye Bulldog Clubs Specilaty Show in Deleware. My fuzzys are bulldogs (3) and African Grey Parrot. debb

1.)U B right. 2.)Yes, I patched. 3.)Dinner is over. We had baked chicken basted w/sweet&sour dressing, rice, and green peas. 3.)It's 10pm here **Glenn - I know my friend has IE3 because I have been after him forever to upgrade, but he's afraid of IE4. (Oh, I have to get fiesty again.) My "Official Microsoft Internet Explorer 3.0 Book" says "If you would like to send the message with rich HTML formatting, choose Format HTML in the compose window." But it doesn't say anything about putting a picture in the message, just as attachment.

Evening very significant (VS with a <VBG>) Sharon, My mother and sister live in Eagle River and I spent time in Anchorage, Fairbanks and a site off the Aleutian Chain called Shimia (sp) while giving the Russians some #$%! and seeing how fast they could scramble their fighters to intercept.…Larry

O.K., O.K. I get the point, I think you are all very SIGNIFICANT each and everyone of you.. By the way everyone who e-mailed me yesterday . Each one said there was an attachment. I do have IE3 and I spent a large part of the day trying to open these to no avail now did you guys or did you not send me an attachment? I am duly chastened for using that word......S

Hmmm Venus, something tells me you LOVE being feisty and would not change for love or money. I B Right huh?<G> Did you patch or not? Did you get your rebate or not? Have you eaten yet or not? What, if not, would you be having?….Glenn, can you help me here??? And depending on how much the Govt. leans on MS will they HAVE to use IE4+….Donna, I am not sure about the time zones but I am here in CA and its almost seven, could you keep it warm for me? Can't remember being in Ohio, have you ever been to Yosemite Park in CA? Not far from me….Did anyone get permission you use up all this space for chat? Are we in PM chat?

Hello Venus I had IE3.0 forever and it would not support Html nor could you change fonts. I wasn't talking about sending attachments. I was talking about including the picture inside the text.

Good evening Helga, I'm in Wasilla. A small town just about 50 miles north of Anchorage. Sorry about being so slow to answer but only have 1 phone line in this apt. and have to get off after a few minutes so the phone is available. Sorry to hear about you thyroid problem Helga. I have had a chronic illness for about 15 years but all the doctors know is what it isn't.........But you get by......S

I don't know if I told you - I am in Marion. Where are you?

I have sent picture attachments from IE4 to IE3 and they got them fine. But then,IE3 does support html because they can send messages with different fonts and colors to me as well.

Now Larry it is not nice to tell people that their browsers are from the dark ages. Also do you realize that as soon as 98 makes it's sweep eveyone will be using IE4.01

Sure Larry come on over. How long will it take you to get here? I'm in Ohio. Donna

I beg your pardon, kind sir, but I, as the "others" have PMG4 not PMP. (Trying hard not to be so fiesty. Did it work?)ha ha ha

Glenn, my guess is that you are most correct. I would try it as an attachment to those folks who have, as yet, to upgrade. R we chat/chit-ing here?

Hi Sharon, I would say that someone here posted the extension on the rebates but I do not remember who and the date. And unlike some folks who apparently are SIGNIFICANT, some "others" are not and have NOT received their rebate for PRINTMASTER PLATINUM since NOVEMEBER, and are PATIENTLY awaiting same…<Grin'nChitininCA).....Donna, can I come over and see what a 19"monitor looks like? BTW, what's for dinner...chitt-lins?

I was wondering if the attachments that people are saying they can't open is because they were sent in HTML by IE4.0 or Communicator. If a picture is included in the message area and sent to a non HTML browser it is split of as an attachment and there is no program association to open it. ???? What do you think Larry?

Hmmmm Must be the difference in monitor size cause I can see all three kids from about waist up. They're so cute. Wish my three were that size again. That was "the best" time in my life. Donna

I B Fine Thanks

members.xoom.com\mbgoldberg.....and how are U?

Helga, <LOL> yes, that would be my advice....Larry

Ok I have looked from top to bottom and can't find Michael's URL. what is it please.

Hi there Daisy, You are mostly correct, the "others" (read: non significant<G>) who purchased early (Nov. in my case) had to "patch" to come up to your status…Larry

So, Larry, do I follow the golden rule that if it ain't broke, don't fix it? Later.....Helga=^..^=

Ray said he has PMP right? Doesn't Platinum already include the patch? - Venus

Sharon, can't leave before asking you a question. From where in Alaska are you? Was up there for 3 weeks. Anchorage, Fairbanks, Point Barrow, Valdez, and everything in between......Helga=^..^=

Just went back to check. I use full screen all the time now. I can see the cutie in the middle and most of the boy on the right, but only the forehead of the baby. I have a 17" monitor.

Welcome RAY, would you check on the version down to the decimal for me by going to Help at the top of you screen in PrintMaster and then About. If you have a newer Platinum you will have 4.01.33, if not please download and install the patch. If you are current there, I would ask if you are you current your video driver? Do you have trouble in any other program? If not then we might have to "adjust the video" so to speak, by doing some editing in DOS….Larry

Make my own template???

I am sending my rebate for the PMP and just read the fine print and it said that it is expired if not sent by April 1 now I didn't buy it untill April 4 so that wouldn't work. I think this "CHAT" room is so very entertaining now that there is a little chitting along with the chatting .If anyone knows if the rebate program has been extended please let me know. I am really glad to see more people on line this afternoon . I thought my computer had gone dead. Thanks...........S

Can't spell my own name right.... Larry, I check for you suggestion later; dinner needs to be served. Until then.....Helga=^..^=

Larry, I'm doing all right. Have my ups-n-downs, but I'll live. Thanks.........Glenn, nice to see you back......Helha=^..^=

PMPR kept freezing up on me-it went went back to CostCO. PMG has not caused any problems-it's at home with me......Helga=^..^=

EVERY TIME I AD CLIP ART TO MY PROJECT AFTER I ACCEPT I SEE NOTHING ON THE SCREEN, BUT IT PRINT'S OUT OK WHAT AM I DOING WRONG????? I HAVE PMP.....

So Helga, Was it your Gold that was/is freezing up on you? If so I would tempted to install the patch….Larry…How are you feeling?

PMPR went back to CostCo. Was unable to fix the problem with the program freezing up on me. Now it's back to using PMG v.4.00.21.....Helga=^..^=

Helga, what I should have said is please go to Help and About and check your version number down to the decimal. If you have 4.01.33 then you are current until version 5.0. Was is not you who bought Premier and have a later version yet?….Larry

Hi Larry; I'm using version 4.00.21, but never had any problems.....Helga=^..^=

Maurice and Jay, thanks for fixing the clock. Now I don't have to keep rotating my head like Linda Blair in the Exorcist. My neck thanks both you....Helga=^..^=

Evening Helga, what version are you presently using?

If you have IE4.0 go to fullscreen and then all of Michaels picture will show. For those of you that don't have IE 4.0, it has a fullscreen feature that takes out all toolbars except a very narrow one that has all the essential buttons (back, forward, stop, etc). Very nice feature for stuff like this. I have a 19" monitor and pictures really jump out at you! Donna

I have had PMG v.4 for several months and have not experienced any problems with it. So, should I get the Patch or leave it alone? Thanks.......Helga=^..^=

Evening to ALL the GREAT (but chit-chatty) folks here…..Peter, did you say your personal computer whiz said "tough guys don't do backups or DUMB guys don't do backups?"<VBG>……Frank, I don't know what "bugs" you are referring to friend…Bev, beta (along with being the second letter of the Greek alphabet) in this case is the name given for a computer product prior to commercial release. Beta testing is the last stage of testing, and normally involves sending the product to beta test sites (folks like me) outside the company for "real-world" exposure. It is often preceded by a round of testing called (what else?)alpha testing. Thanks for asking and no real correlation to the vidoe tapes of old. Yes, Willie (Gates) did do fine and he is really a personable guy that happens to have money…..Jean, we fellows (and the gals too it would appear) really do get a kick out of helping all who feel like they are beyond the reach of becoming computer-literate. What some would consider dysfunctional some folks call beneficial. Guess that's what makes the world go round eh?….Stuart, yes you were chitting and you know better..Hey Glenn, how are you friend?…...Linda, I have not forgot about Mars/Venus just been busy, look soon for email…..Larry

Hi All, first I was matched up with Princess Lynn for an eloping act. As she is my niece I suppose that would be illegal according to US Law. Then I was supposed to be the father of triplets with Lee as the happy mother. Although I once lived in Maryland (Lee's present home state) I can swear we never met. My little Martha would object to all this strenuously. She still likes to keep me as her husband and dance partner, she says. Moreover, even if she weighs only 94 lbs, she will scratch out the eyes... etc. etc. (HA HA HA!) Maurice.

Lee I can only offer my apology for the blooper. I think it is very slow today, in fact I thought I wasn't even getting through(re>test). I will try some of the prints shops here for their sources. My friend has a blueprint shop and can get card stock for me but it's only 80 or so weight and it's very nice but would like to get some of the shiny stuff. Thanks to all........S

Hello Myra, have you tried shutting down all the programs that are running in the background. What I would do is the control-alt-del and shut everything down except systray and explorer. If this fixes the problem restart your computer and cancel them one at a time until you find the one that is causing the problem.Then move it out of the start program or delete it.I would first suspect any viris program

Still no luck getting to Michaels site. Is this right? http:\\members.xoom.com\mbgoldberg? Paul thank you for your input...guess I will buy some first aid software. Hope it has plenty of aspirin in it. Ha. Thanks all, Myra

Lee, It took an age to get on for me too... I noticed that ALL overseas sites were quite slow this morning though... thought it was just the pipe to Australia... Oh god... did I just chit?? I was hoping not to... :-) Regards, Stuart

Sharon, As nice a gentleman as Maurice seems to be, my "SO's" name is David. I guess that's what happens when you have so many people to keep track of! Maybe we should go back to "reinking" although I have to admit it's been my "giggle" for the day and boy, did I need it! Has anyone else had a long "wait" time today, boy, is it slow!Maybe it's because they're loading the Mac Patch they promised for Monday! Hope you have a good evening!

Hmmm... the only other thing that springs to mind is to have a chat to a commercial printer, and find out if they buy their paper anywhere locally... I just got a heap of 150 gsm card stock cut to A5 size, for printing greeting cards... 1000 sheets for $20... I'm heading to a local flea market, with 'Personalised' greeting cards...

Sharon, As nice a gentleman as Maurice seems to be, my "SO's" name is David. I guess that's what happens when you have so many people to keep track of! Maybe we should go back to "reinking" although I have to admit it's been my "giggle" for the day and boy, did I need it! Has anyone else had a long "wait" time today, boy, is it slow! Hope you have a good evening!

Peter, it worked just like you said. I am giggling like a schoolgirl, and am well past that time in my life. I saved the file to the zip drive and then opened it. Perfect. And I printed a single page and that worked. Thank you so much. Now, I'm going to send a message to Jim for the archives and I won't miss anything while we're on vacation. The help available from the patient and knowledgeable people on this forum is invaluable. And I love the chit chat! Thank you so much. Helen......PS I'll bet my 4 year old granddaughter will be able to make child's play out of Acrobat Reader in the near future. I really thought it was like Reader Rabbit. Ha ha on me. H.

Since Melissa thought Maurice was having the triplets and I to asume you are the signifigant other half? I keep a pad by my computer and jot so much stuff down it looks like I had a paper snow storm . When I go back to look for something I can't find it. Welcome to the club Pat and I'm sure you will find what you need help wise here the gurus that be are very VERY knowledgable. You would still have to be in the bud to be more green than I.........S

Hi. I new to computing and printmaster. I would like a little instruction on how you would make a wallett calendar. I am learning something new every day with this computer, but I am still pretty green. Also if you were to make note cards as gifts, what size and kind of paper would be best to use. Thanks to anyone that can help. Pat

I highlighted the address Michael gave, right clicked on it, copied, then pasted it in my address bar. Hit enter and went right to it. The kids were too low on my screen too. **Lee - Guess you missed your chance for the cover of National Enquirer then? (RE:Triplets){smile}

MYRA re Apr 22/98 8:15 I experienced your same or similar problem, but mine had a relatively simple fix , and that was to use my FIRST AID software to repair the files that were causing my ILLEGAL OPERATIONS. As I am not to keen about going into my operating file system and changing things manually, this is/was an easy out for me. Paul

Michael when I went to your page I couldn't get the whole family in the picture the children are cut off and when I scrolled down it still wasn't enought. And also congratulations on the triplets. I had to stay in bed for 3 months with my last. Very hard thing to do. Tell you wife I said hello and just be patient ..........S

Myra I had trouble also getting to that site, my problem was with where I put the address. I was putting it in the search box and it came up with nothing. Sooooo, I tried to put it where the yahoo address goes and PRESTO, it went right to it.......S

Good afternoon Eleanor, I have not been able to get to Michaels site all day, tried slashes other way...still no luck. Would you be so kind and post the exact way I should be doing it. I'm off a slash, dot or something. Thanks,Myra

Many thanks Daisy for the info. I will try the mindscape site, usually I don't understand what they are talking about. Boy do I wish I'd started this earlier in my life. My thoughts have been to reinstall but thought maybe I was doing something wrong and it would continue later anyway if I didn't correct it. Thanks again, Myra

Noted much discussion about *.tmp files below. If any of you use print artist platinum and have deleted all your *.tmp files, you will not be able to produce a calendar in the attached Photo Express program. You can reinstall this file simply by using windows explorer and copying "calendar.tmp" from the original CD to the "iphotoexpress\programs\plugin" folder on your hard drive.

Hi all! Daisy, good thing Michael cleared up the confusion - If I'm having triplets, I'm making medical history!!<giggle,VBgiggle> Sharon, guess we all suffer from that malady CRS (can't remember s____(did that get by the censors?) I keep a small pad of paper on my desk-write down who I want to reply to, web sites, directions given,etc. Works, as long as when you go back, you can remember what your notes meant!!

FORGET the previous message, folks. I just figured it out when I looked at it as I was typing in a different one -- the backslashes should be forward! And, yes, it is a beautiful family. My wishes are added to the others for all the best with the soon-to-be triple addition. Do let us know, Michael.

Has anyone else had a problem accessing Michael's page from the address he gave http:\\members.xoom.com\mbgoldberg I have tried through Aol Netfind and through Yahoo with no success.

Thanks ladies for the advise and I am most eager to try it. Maurice next to couples ice dancing , I think ballroom dancing is the most beautiful sight. Have fun at you ball. Stuart (I think) the only paper listed in our phone book is the kind you hang on the wall . I'm going outside (Alaskan term for the lower 48) this fall after our house is done, hope to look for some in Florida..........S

Sharon, I have IE 4.0 and really like it, especially the mail program, Outlook Express. I did the full install to get everything with it & haven't had any problems. But I do know some people that had so many problems they went back to 3.0. Don't know if ram, hd space or what caused their problems, maybe one of our gurus could advise you on what your system needs to run it properly. Donna

I did not install the active desktop for the same reason. I think Glenn has it though and has had no problem with it.

Wow, Michael, what a lovely family! You and your wife must be very proud of those adorable children. Can't wait to see the triplets. Isn't it something to know that you have people all over the world anxiously awaiting their birth? Good luck. Donna

I don't know if any of these Q&A's will apply to your situation, but you might take a look at http://www.mindscape.com/service/faqs/pm4win.htm Have you tried reinstalling?